[By Fred]:
- My Backpack! I went MED in size, it may have been in the 45L range? whatever that means.
- Sleeping Bag. My guess is I would bring my own. Let us know if you have bags to provide. If so, I would forego bringing my own. I visualize my sleep bag tightly rolled either on top or at the bottom of my pack, since it won't fit inside.
- Hiking boots. I'll wear my army boots, they are still comfortable.
- Several Socks
- Underwear
-Long Underwear?
- I have sort of Windbreaker - type sweat pants. I figure I would wear those for my exterior for the hike
- T Shirts, or at least long sleeve thin shirt
- Heavier Sweat Shirt
- Outer shell, windbreaker but its also rain proof
- Gloves right? Need to know -- heavy duty, winter extreme cold weather gloves? Or regular winter gloves?
- Knit hat
- Baseball Hat as well?
- sunglasses
- Roll of TP
- Small baby wipe packs?
- Freezer bags in the event of having to pack out my own waste??? yuk. ew.
- sunblock spf 50 or whatever
- toiletry like toothbrush, floss
- cell phone!
- compass!
- flask with liquor!
- camera? Or maybe use cell phone camera
Water. I have 2 water camelbacks. Fly with them empty, obviously fill for the hike. Probably need to know how much water each person needs for the hike.
So if the wind comes up heavy at 10k feet. Am I warm enough with a T-Shirt, a sweat shirt, and the outer wind break shell, or do I need to be bringing full on winter jacket?
[By Tom] -A comfortable pair of boots are pivotal. Pete may be forced to rent plastic stiff shackles given above info. However, if anyone is on cusp of good boot purchases, there are 3 brands that stand out (all mid stiff midsole backpackimg boots): Zamberlan 996 or 1006 Viox GT
Asolo TPS 520 GV
Lowa Baffin Pro or Renegade gtx
[by Tom] BORROW FROM TOMS
Many many fleece coats and hats and caps and 2 pads 3 sleeping bags many windbreakers 2 nalgene water bottles some.cooking gear (but my stuff can literally be used to keep heating water for all)
Peter: My 2 man tent is likely same as yours so you don't have to bring it as we can likely decide between my 2 man and my 4 man and maybe alternate is Evs 3 man if he brings his. (Tom)
Evan 07/09/2014 8:37pm
My normally comfortable cotton sock gave me a blister after two hours. Walking was VERY uncomfortable.
I popped the blister and bought a thin wool sock and a medium wool sock and had a good 3 hour hike after that. So, a two sock combo, non cotton, seems best.
I shelled out for a twenty dollar footbed and that helped too.
A backup pair of light shoes for around camp or in case of shoe disaster will feel good. If something starts rubbing on my big boots I think even sneakers might be a good bailout backup option on a ten hour walk.
I immediately started sweating though the day was cold. I plan to climb in no cotton. 1) mesh t shirt
2) long sleeve polyester shirt
3) goretex shell
For freezing freak storms:
4) neck gaiter tube
5) wool hat
6) gloves
7) goretex pants
For glissade descente:
8) old beater waterproof pants
I got surprisingly hungry and surprisingly thirsty in just an hour or two of walking with heavy pack. I will try to bring too much water and too many Snickers bars.
Considering that the tent will be pitched on scree and talus I think a good thermarest pad, at least, will be necessary to get any sleep at all. We probably will be waking up in the dark around 5 am on the summiting day so sleeping will be helpful.
Tom ([email protected]) 07/09/2014 11:34pm
Good idea. Do not bring anything cotton. The two wool stocking combo is a good idea. I will try that too. Last time I used a thicker single pair. Yes too on things like super feet inserts. Please all try to walk with full pack and just throw in backpack maybe 2 gallons of water so to account for rental ice ax and crampon and helmet weight. I will call and reserve 5 sets of these items so we are not without them and we can decide exactly what we want once in mt Shasta city on sat AM.
Peter ([email protected]) 07/10/2014 1:22pm
That is some good practice on Evan, definitely confirming me or Sam as least prepared. I don't think I've done a full hour yet. I used my hiking socks as an inner layer, not sure if cotton. Intend to get coolmax or similar as I've used before.
Pack was 25 to 30 lbs and not too comfortable. I'm struggling with that choice.
Peter 07/10/2014 10:02pm
Fred, if you carry your sleeping bag on the outside maybe wrap it in plastic or something to keep it dry if we encounter snow.
Are people's boots waterproof? I thought that was kind of key or are we not even expecting that on summit push
Other thoughts:
- first aid kit of some sort, have to decide how elaborate. No need for Tom to perform mountainside surgery
- flashlights, headlamps best if leaving in dark
Tom:
Not significantly colder at 10k when I.summited.but it.was 12.noon.at 10k for.me. If we sleep at 10k count on cold. I.have a stove and we can take several one pound propane tanks. The snow.in bottle can melt in sun on pack and moreso inside coat next to your abdomen but it wont be an issue with my stove first melting and or us using any streams with my filter as several people said there is still water even nearly 10k. Food is freeze dried packs at costco or walmart and only need about 4 each. We can all go to my 24 h walmart and select if.you dont like what I have. Also we need dried fruit and nuts to continuously munch during hike. You.will burn lots of calories.
Because I slept both nights at horse camp I cant tell you how cold at helen lake but more and more people are saying this warm.summer (108 in redding one hr south) and late july that we wont be severely cold
I.have 4 extra fleece jackets as you saw. I have a crapload of warm as hell hats. Key is for all to have warm.gloves just in case.
From "So You Want to Climb Mt Shasta" [Tom's PDF]:Everyone in your climbing party should carry these essentials: map and compass, flashlight, extra food, extra warm clothing, sunglasses, sunscreen, pocket knife, matches, a stove and pot for melting snow for water, a first aid kit, a fully charged cell phone and locator beacon.
- My Backpack! I went MED in size, it may have been in the 45L range? whatever that means.
- Sleeping Bag. My guess is I would bring my own. Let us know if you have bags to provide. If so, I would forego bringing my own. I visualize my sleep bag tightly rolled either on top or at the bottom of my pack, since it won't fit inside.
- Hiking boots. I'll wear my army boots, they are still comfortable.
- Several Socks
- Underwear
-Long Underwear?
- I have sort of Windbreaker - type sweat pants. I figure I would wear those for my exterior for the hike
- T Shirts, or at least long sleeve thin shirt
- Heavier Sweat Shirt
- Outer shell, windbreaker but its also rain proof
- Gloves right? Need to know -- heavy duty, winter extreme cold weather gloves? Or regular winter gloves?
- Knit hat
- Baseball Hat as well?
- sunglasses
- Roll of TP
- Small baby wipe packs?
- Freezer bags in the event of having to pack out my own waste??? yuk. ew.
- sunblock spf 50 or whatever
- toiletry like toothbrush, floss
- cell phone!
- compass!
- flask with liquor!
- camera? Or maybe use cell phone camera
Water. I have 2 water camelbacks. Fly with them empty, obviously fill for the hike. Probably need to know how much water each person needs for the hike.
So if the wind comes up heavy at 10k feet. Am I warm enough with a T-Shirt, a sweat shirt, and the outer wind break shell, or do I need to be bringing full on winter jacket?
[By Tom] -A comfortable pair of boots are pivotal. Pete may be forced to rent plastic stiff shackles given above info. However, if anyone is on cusp of good boot purchases, there are 3 brands that stand out (all mid stiff midsole backpackimg boots): Zamberlan 996 or 1006 Viox GT
Asolo TPS 520 GV
Lowa Baffin Pro or Renegade gtx
[by Tom] BORROW FROM TOMS
Many many fleece coats and hats and caps and 2 pads 3 sleeping bags many windbreakers 2 nalgene water bottles some.cooking gear (but my stuff can literally be used to keep heating water for all)
Peter: My 2 man tent is likely same as yours so you don't have to bring it as we can likely decide between my 2 man and my 4 man and maybe alternate is Evs 3 man if he brings his. (Tom)
Evan 07/09/2014 8:37pm
My normally comfortable cotton sock gave me a blister after two hours. Walking was VERY uncomfortable.
I popped the blister and bought a thin wool sock and a medium wool sock and had a good 3 hour hike after that. So, a two sock combo, non cotton, seems best.
I shelled out for a twenty dollar footbed and that helped too.
A backup pair of light shoes for around camp or in case of shoe disaster will feel good. If something starts rubbing on my big boots I think even sneakers might be a good bailout backup option on a ten hour walk.
I immediately started sweating though the day was cold. I plan to climb in no cotton. 1) mesh t shirt
2) long sleeve polyester shirt
3) goretex shell
For freezing freak storms:
4) neck gaiter tube
5) wool hat
6) gloves
7) goretex pants
For glissade descente:
8) old beater waterproof pants
I got surprisingly hungry and surprisingly thirsty in just an hour or two of walking with heavy pack. I will try to bring too much water and too many Snickers bars.
Considering that the tent will be pitched on scree and talus I think a good thermarest pad, at least, will be necessary to get any sleep at all. We probably will be waking up in the dark around 5 am on the summiting day so sleeping will be helpful.
Tom ([email protected]) 07/09/2014 11:34pm
Good idea. Do not bring anything cotton. The two wool stocking combo is a good idea. I will try that too. Last time I used a thicker single pair. Yes too on things like super feet inserts. Please all try to walk with full pack and just throw in backpack maybe 2 gallons of water so to account for rental ice ax and crampon and helmet weight. I will call and reserve 5 sets of these items so we are not without them and we can decide exactly what we want once in mt Shasta city on sat AM.
Peter ([email protected]) 07/10/2014 1:22pm
That is some good practice on Evan, definitely confirming me or Sam as least prepared. I don't think I've done a full hour yet. I used my hiking socks as an inner layer, not sure if cotton. Intend to get coolmax or similar as I've used before.
Pack was 25 to 30 lbs and not too comfortable. I'm struggling with that choice.
Peter 07/10/2014 10:02pm
Fred, if you carry your sleeping bag on the outside maybe wrap it in plastic or something to keep it dry if we encounter snow.
Are people's boots waterproof? I thought that was kind of key or are we not even expecting that on summit push
Other thoughts:
- first aid kit of some sort, have to decide how elaborate. No need for Tom to perform mountainside surgery
- flashlights, headlamps best if leaving in dark
Tom:
Not significantly colder at 10k when I.summited.but it.was 12.noon.at 10k for.me. If we sleep at 10k count on cold. I.have a stove and we can take several one pound propane tanks. The snow.in bottle can melt in sun on pack and moreso inside coat next to your abdomen but it wont be an issue with my stove first melting and or us using any streams with my filter as several people said there is still water even nearly 10k. Food is freeze dried packs at costco or walmart and only need about 4 each. We can all go to my 24 h walmart and select if.you dont like what I have. Also we need dried fruit and nuts to continuously munch during hike. You.will burn lots of calories.
Because I slept both nights at horse camp I cant tell you how cold at helen lake but more and more people are saying this warm.summer (108 in redding one hr south) and late july that we wont be severely cold
I.have 4 extra fleece jackets as you saw. I have a crapload of warm as hell hats. Key is for all to have warm.gloves just in case.
From "So You Want to Climb Mt Shasta" [Tom's PDF]:Everyone in your climbing party should carry these essentials: map and compass, flashlight, extra food, extra warm clothing, sunglasses, sunscreen, pocket knife, matches, a stove and pot for melting snow for water, a first aid kit, a fully charged cell phone and locator beacon.